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Post by Chris Angel on Dec 20, 2009 20:56:24 GMT -6
Naysayers. The Excellence of Execution in coming back and you're prepping for a disappointment?
How about pretend we're kids again and just watch it for what it's worth. We wrestling fans read too much into stuff these days thanks to the internet.
Im going to take the opportunity to watch Bret Hart the way I did when I was a kid and even if he doesn't wrestle, which I hope to God he does not, it'll be great seeing him on TV again.
Besides purple money is just weird.
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Post by sh17 on Dec 20, 2009 21:10:52 GMT -6
I believe he can do this flawlessly if the E catches lightning in a bottle and books him the right way. Just let him do his thing and get the Hell out of his way.
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Post by Jillie on Dec 21, 2009 19:13:27 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong, peeps, I would LOVE to see Bret return to TV even in a non-wrestling capacity. I don't think the WWE, or TNA for that matter, can pull off the kind of return and storyline that would do justice to the man, his contributions to the business, or the appreciation he has from his fans. Both companies just flat out lack the kind of creative thinking and, let's face it, balls to do something fantastic with this opportunity. It's going to be a lost cause like so many other potentially fantastic ideas either company has had recently. This is the primary reason I don't even watch wrestling any more - I've seen it all before. Nothing in WWE or TNA is new, it's not innovative, it's not exciting, it doesn't make me want to tune in next week. I actually voluntarily miss Impact every week to watch my boyfriend curl because novice curling is far more enthralling. Yes, there is a shitload of talent in both companies (there is also a shit load of no-talent, but that's a discussion for another day), but the bookers and promoters can't seem to get their poop in a group to market and present the talent they have in an entertaining way.
BTW, Matt, my dislike of WWE isn't really as of late. It's been at least two and a half years since I was able to watch a WWE program.
Furthermore, having coloured money makes it a Hell of a lot easier to tell what denomination you are pulling out of your wallet.
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Post by Bubba JD on Dec 21, 2009 21:27:36 GMT -6
i would go on a rant, but i think Jillie pretty much said what i needed to get off my own chest.
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Post by sh17 on Dec 21, 2009 22:23:42 GMT -6
I'm interested because I did not grow up in the era when Bret Hart was huge(being only 17), and I want to see if he can still do what I've seen on tape and read about.
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Post by Bubba JD on Dec 22, 2009 22:07:39 GMT -6
he won't. not with the mulekick (fuck you, Goldberg) & the strokes. i read that Hart may've gained weight, since being out of the business & is trying to get back into shape.
with his health, there's no way that Bret will ever be as good as he once was.
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Post by sh17 on Dec 22, 2009 23:41:10 GMT -6
Well that's in general, 99% of society is never the same in their elder years as they were in their younger years. I'm setting my bar extremely low.
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Post by Jillie on Dec 23, 2009 18:52:55 GMT -6
There is not a chance in Hell Bret is getting the ring to actually wrestle. He has been asked time and again since his concussion/stroke and he has said repeatedly that he can not get back in the ring to wrestle. If you want to see what Hart could do in the ring, go rent some tapes, my friend.
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Post by MGM on Dec 23, 2009 19:17:55 GMT -6
In my honest opinion and to be blunt as possible, nostalgia never works... The thought of him trying to relive his glory days after being retired for so long would just be stupid, not to mention everything he's been through since he hung up the boots. Hart in a General Manager-type role, sure, that would be great and very entertaining. I would love to see a verbal/non-physical feud between him and Vince. And maybe at some point they could arrange a match of some sort where they pick a wrestler (or wrestlers) to represent them and duke it out on behalf of the two. However, the thought of him stepping into the ring again would be no more entertaining than watching anybody else that is still around way past their prime in the WWE, or any pro wrestling organization for that matter. (I hope this all made sense, I'm running on about 40 minutes of sleep in the past two day's)
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Post by sh17 on Dec 23, 2009 21:09:25 GMT -6
I see your point, and quite frankly history tells us as such. WWE and TNA both are falling in different ways for the old timer's syndrome. While WWE has done much better about it(even if I may disagree with it), the fact of the matter is wrestling has fallen back onto the theory that those who built the business can continue to carry it. In reality, legends like Michaels, Undertaker, Hogan, Hall, Nash, and alike should be enjoying retirement and saving their bodies the punishment, not prostituting their legacies.
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Post by Bubba JD on Dec 23, 2009 23:42:30 GMT -6
Well that's in general, 99% of society is never the same in their elder years as they were in their younger years. I'm setting my bar extremely low. this doesn't account for stuff actually happening to a person, either. when something happens, like strokes or major accidents, then things go from bad to worse. MGM is completely right on his point. nostalgia doesn't work. period. if you want to relive the past, buy or rent videos. that's the only way you can truly appreciate the talents of certain people. |
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Post by sh17 on Dec 24, 2009 1:02:20 GMT -6
Sadly the two majors haven't figured this out yet
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Post by Bubba JD on Dec 24, 2009 21:57:03 GMT -6
as long as the two majors have their heads up their asses, the current wrestling product will continue to suck balls.
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