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Post by Hollywood on Dec 24, 2008 16:52:39 GMT -6
Needless to say, I'm exhausted to the point that I'm going to wait a few days to explain the match outcomes and all that. Big thanks to Johnny Moxie, Silvus and Fawn for stepping in to help write.
Moxie Silvus vs Reaper, Fatal 4 Way, and Rutherford vs jobbers
Fawn Sean O'Brien vs Extrano
Silvus Azrael vs Emo Kid
Soul Reaper being the idea man
Matt Shannon everything else
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Post by fawn on Dec 24, 2008 18:18:02 GMT -6
Nice job by all.
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Post by Hollywood on Dec 26, 2008 15:23:20 GMT -6
I forgot to give credit to Soul Reaper for editing some matches so the show could be posted on time. Mucho gracias, Senor Reaper
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Post by Hollywood on Dec 27, 2008 14:57:30 GMT -6
Alright, now that I've had a couple of days to decompress, here's how the results came about with some feedback to RPs. Xtreme Team vs Wench and Goryokaku Very tough match to call. Wench, nice job on developing your character into a more heelish character. Silvus, I continue to enjoy how you're able to mix storyline development with focusing on your opponents. And Syco, you keep getting better and better with your RPs. Just keep doing what you're doing is all I can think of for now(unless someone else with more experience can think of anything to add. lol) So all things considered, I figured that with this being the opening the match, it would be alright to declare the match a draw as we just couldn't pick a winner, plus this gives all parties involved an angle to work with.Mike Rutherford vs jobbers Nice little promo, Fawn. I liked how Rutherford was trying to seek advice from a five year old boy that turned against him. Now while I'm a big opponent of "breaking kayfabe" in RPs, the Scott Levy line about him going through a bunch of personas didn't seem to break kayfabe because you equated it with Batman being a persona of Bruce Wayne, or Mick Foley being any of his three personas.First Blood Battle Royal First things first, it was Fawn's idea for Andrew Smith to eliminate himself with the bottle of ketchup to help develop his heel persona.
Freak, I liked how you had Jack Clinton talking about how he's not to be ignored, but in your second promo, and I liked the bit where you ridiculed Johnny Moxie's ring name up until you broke the kayfabe barrier. Whereas Fawn's Mike Rutherford promo simply stated that Scott Levy having to go through personas like characters in comic books go from being Clark Kent to Superman, you come out and basically say that there are writers and bookers that give the wrestlers their gimmicks with your Vince Russo line. And in your third promo, you break the kayfabe barrier but in a different way by pointing out Johnny Moxie's misspelling of gold when he mistakenly typed "God Standard." Common sense would dictate that it was simply a misspelling, and if Jack Clinton was watching it, he wouldn't have known that Johnny misspelled his nickname.
Grinch, the stipulation on the card had stated that the final four in the ring would move on to a semi-finals tournament to determine the #1 contender to the Von Erich Memorial Title, yet you had your characters arguing over who would win the battle royal as if it would come down to the last person in the ring. This was a factor as to why I didn't have any of your characters in the final four. Whereas Jack Clinton slightly broke kayfabe, he at least knew the rules of the match. However, other than that one miscue, overall it was a pretty good promo, and I liked the dissention that grew among the Tru Playas. I figured that having DevilDog snap and take out Stank Lovve would allow you to not look weak and give your characters an angle to work with for future RPs.
Aaron, I didn't let Rick Roll last in the match very long as while you did have him included in your Omerta RP, he only said a couple of lines and didn't address the match at all, whereas Hannah stayed in slightly longer because she addressed the match in your Emo Kid RP.
Johnny Moxie, I have to give you props on your second RP. I liked how you threw what Jack Clinton had to say back at him by pointing out that the casual fan would've been confused by someone saying that Vince Russo had something to do with coming up with people's names/gimmicks. And good job on showing the Tru Playas that they didn't see the stipulations of the match.
Jillie, you're doing a good job of developing Adriana Samu into a heel here in SNW, and good storyline advancement as well at the very end when she found a steel pipe. Not sure what that's about.
Viper, I'll focus on the Viper portion of your RP as you consolidated your RPs, which is perfectly fine. Nice touch of knowing what the weather was like here in DFW this past week when it was colder than shit. lol.. But yeah, very nice touch. And I liked how your character didn't sling mud at Adriana Samu. I would've liked a mention of the semi-finals, but from what I could tell it didn't seem like you had said that you were going to win the battle royal either.Sean O'Brien vs Extrano I have to say good RPs by both of you. GreenDragon, I liked the T-shirt in your first promo. But then seconddave, you countered it very well in your RP, pointing out Sean O'Brien's ignorance. In the end, I had to give the nod to Extrano because GreenDragon, in your second RP, you basically said everything that seconddave had got you on, proving his point. And I'm still waiting on Sean O'Brien to go all out heel and talk smack about how MMA is superior to pro wrestling like we had discussed. Williams Bros. vs Kobra's Law vs Alley Ratz Another tough match to call, but I gave the nod to the Alley Ratz because Ninja was just a tad more creative in his RP, having Eddy and Twitch fighting at Christmas time over whether it's called Christmas or X-Mas. The Christmas carolers coming to their place, and the dad calling them homosexuals had me laughing pretty good. Needless to say, Ninja, you've come a long way with the improvement you've shown in your Alley Ratz RPs. Viper, I would've liked to have heard a bit more from Kobra's Law in your promo, but for what was posted, I liked what I saw. You addressed the match, and I liked how they acknowledged Viper as the leader. GreenDragon, like I just said about Kobra's Law, I would've liked to have heard a bit more from the Williams Bros. To be honest, I had a hard time choosing between which team would be eliminated first in the order of elimination. Please bear in mind that with Christmas coming up, my staff didn't really have time to vote on the order of elimination, and I was doing all I could to get this show posted. For those of you who were in the Fatal 4 Way for the Von Erich Memorial Title, keep that in mind. Which brings me to...Omerta vs Enigmah vs Kid Thunder vs Criss Cassidy Yet another tough match to call, but I gave Omerta a slight edge for creativity by having Rick Roll play the role of camera man for his promo, and I liked the touch of comedy between Rick Roll and Omerta. Ninja, I liked the history lesson you gave about Kid Thunder and talked about how he's Red Ninja's cousin and had been living in his shadow. Enigmah, no problems on the length of your RP considering what you were up against in real life. And Darth, again you come through with another great RP, keeping Criss in character. Again, it was tough to decide a winner, but in the end the votes went to Omerta.Emo Kid vs Azrael Simply put, it was hard to decide a winner. The votes were tied among the staff members, so I called on an outsider named James Jackson, who some of you may know from UHW, and in the end he went with Azrael. Aaron, again, kudos on creativity and character development with Emo Kid doubting himself, and Silvus, again, good job on countering what Emo had to say.Silvus vs Soul Reaper Again, very tough match to call. The two were practically equal and this match would've been a draw had we not called on another outsider to vote on the RPs in djowalsen, who most of you recognize from FCW, NAWA, UHW and WRF. He gave the nod to Silvus because of Reaper breaking kayfabe with his comment of being asked to lose a match. Now obviously, it's one thing if it's being done for comedic purposes, like kayfabe being inadvertently broken, ie two guys in a feud being seen in the background talking to each other while another guy is cutting his promo. But when cutting a serious promo, it's important to keep kayfabe. In any event, there will definitely be a rematch as this feud is far from settled, and to steal a phrase from DDP, that's not a bad thing. It's... a good thing!
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Post by silvus on Dec 27, 2008 16:15:48 GMT -6
Gonna add my tupence to the Xtreme team vs Dark Ones match:
Now I didn't vote on this match being me in it but I will give a little feedback because I'm feeling festive. Ok syco, as Matt's said your getting better and better, and this is the truth with each match your promos get tighter and slightly harder to counter, there's only one thing that I see that you need to improve on and that is Story advancement in promos, or character developement however you see it, bringing this element into your promos will push your promos further and also give you more to work with should you get a reply from an opponent. In Leymans terms keep up what your doing and try to add a little spice with character deveplopement in your promos.
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