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Post by sh17 on Apr 15, 2009 21:49:25 GMT -6
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,516582,00.html So, I'm putting the over-under on activist groups coming after this story at about 26 hours. Anyone else want in on this action? Personally while the death of a child is never a good thing I fully admit, blaming this on a video game would be stupid. Like the article states, WWE came out and said no character in the game wears a cape or dives off buildings. I played wrestling games all the time as a kid, and never felt the urge to do anything like this. Hell, I played Call of Duty 4 earlier today, yet I did not feel the need to get a gun and shoot people of an Arabic appearance. This is an isolated case that, while extremely tragic, is in no way related to wrestling yet it will most likely result in a lawsuit of some form. Nevermind the fact that SD vs. Raw is rated T for people 13+ and the child in this story was only 9 years old, we will blame WWE for putting out the game. The mother was "at the store" leaving her child unsupervised. So, before we go blaming the company who put out the game for this child's actions, let's look at the fact that the child was playing a game specifically rated for older kids without adult supervision. That is what speaks volumes.
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Post by Bubba JD on Apr 17, 2009 23:14:19 GMT -6
there have always been controversies, similar to this. before people blamed video games, music & TV was often blamed for "bad & evil" things. the scandal that always sticks out for me was Ozzie getting into several lawsuits, because parents would blame him for the suicides of their kids.
apparently the song, Suicide Solutions, was at fault for everyone eating the barrel of a gun or whatnot. my old man would always get pissed about this shit, as has a similar belief that we have......namely, this shit isn't the reason that kids do stupid shit. it's a lack of good parenting or supervision.
when Ozzie's song was being blamed for teenage suicide, dad did the one thing that any good parent would do. he listened to the song himself. he knew my brother had the album in question. he took the album long enough so he could hear the music. my brother knew that dad was simply seeing what the big deal was.
took him several days of constantly playing the song to see if he could come to the same conclusion that everyone else seemed to come to. he never saw the big deal. as far as he was concerned, there were deeper signs of trouble that the parents either didn't see or refused to acknowledge (denial?).
he remembers songs, even when he was a kid, that people always blamed for the evils of the time. groups like the FBI would investigate certain singers, for one reason or another.
personally, i think it's easier for most people to blame other stuff or other people, rather then looking at the real source of the problem.
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Post by Reaper on Apr 18, 2009 3:45:21 GMT -6
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked... nobody in WWE equipped themselves with a parachute. So just because he may have had this game they are going to blame it? It would have made much more sense to have blamed Grand Theft Auto again...or even Saints Row 2 since in those games you actually do base jumps from roof tops and such.
In either case, any of these games are rated higher than the age of this kid. But since this country is overly pussified (yes I will use the non word because it fits) we can't blame the kid for being stupid or crazy. AND YET we can't blame the idiot parent/parents because "they've just been through a traumatic experience."
Lets call a spade a spade here. When I was nine, the highest thing I tended to jump down from was a tree or even the school hall ways roof on the weekends (they were lower than most one level homes). The point is, this kid was destined to do something stupid in his life eventually that was going to either hurt himself severely or kill him. I don't recall many of my nine year old peers ever jumping from anything like an apartment building. Hell the closest thing was the guy that fell from the (now would be considered dangerous....pussies) higher than average monkey bars and hitting the concrete frame of the jungle gym. a foot the other way in either direction would have been a softer landing... but they didn't change that damn thing until well after I left the school.
The reason why they changed it is because WE as a country, are allowing the children to grow up sheltered and not letting them really enjoy being a kid anymore. Being a kid requires pain every once in awhile, but the kids these days biggest injury is eyestrain from too much TV/games/computer, because the parents don't want to bother with being parents. Now I didn't take the kids into sports into account because at least those parents give half a shit about their kids and they tend to grow up better.
Personal story: I am the product of a teenage pair of parents, and even with my Mom always being gone trying to work... or party at night, I still didn't grow up stupid. I played little league baseball, and until my lazy streak came about when I was 12, I was a damn good student. The most dangerous thing we did was wrestle (80's version of backyard wrestling) and even then, nobody got hurt. People need to take responsibility for their actions...or their bad parenting already, because blaming EVERYTHING under the sun for peoples behavior is starting to get old.
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Post by sh17 on Apr 18, 2009 12:17:10 GMT -6
Both of you are spot on.
Gunit: I had the same thing with Harry Potter and when Cena came out with his CD. They had heard things about both, and wanted to check it out.
Reaper: Exactly, WWE when asked for comment said none of their wrestlers ever jump off buildings or wear capes. This is, even though it is quite sad, a cleansing of the gene pool and a raising of the national intelligence level.
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Post by Bubba JD on Apr 18, 2009 23:00:22 GMT -6
Reaper nailed his points perfectly. my brother, as a kid, was one of those kids that constantly was climbing on stuff or jumping off things. whenever he got hurt, people just figured he was a way too hyper-active. most people would fucking blamed ADD, in this day & age. the pediatrician we had just said he'd grow out of it, eventually (he was right, too). he'd get stitches from falling off some high monkey bars. he had stitches from running in a classroom, tripping & partially hitting the corner of a desk with his face. there were other stunts, that i fail to remember, at the moment. not once was TV, video games or music blamed for any of his injuries. most people, especially the older crowd, just knew that he was one of the hyper kids that couldn't sit still. since this was the 80's, people knew that shit was just going to happen. kids were going to be kids & get themselves hurt.....that kids had that tendancy to do that. when i was a kid, we'd get on swing sets & see how high we could go. many times, we'd jump off when we got really high up. many times, we hurt ourselves in the process. what did we do? if it hurt bad enough, we'd go crying to mommie or daddie. then, we'd walk it off. brother once broke his right arm because he jumped off a 6-7 foot dirt hill, at a local park. it was in an area that many people didn't get to, so my brother & a friend of our figured they'd jump it for awhile.....figuring nobody would bother them. after a few jumps, using a 10-speed, brother hit a dip at the top, went over the handles of the bike & landed all the way at the bottom of the hill (bike landed on top of him). since he landed in the right position (nearly on his head), he managed to put the brunt of his weight on his right arm. you can imagine how easy it was to break the arm. well, our buddy got help from an employee at a concession stand, who called 9-1-1. the buddy called our parents, to let them know what happened. parents beat the ambulance to the park, despite having further to travel.  not once did my parents contemplate suing the park over this. they knew that it was my brother's own stupidity for doing such a stunt. though, i do remember that the park district did wise up enough to remove the dirt pile after the incident....not wanting a repeat. that was the extent of the situation. nobody got sued. no threats of lawsuits happened. the only thing that was blamed was my brother's stupidity for doing such a stunt. honestly, if he was raised in this day & age, child protective services would've had him removed from the house. they would've claimed that he's not being cared for properly. yet, back then, people had enough sense to know that some kids get themselves hurt more often then others......that it's not bad parenting when this sort of thing happens. yet, we're at the age now were we need warning labels on TV Shows, Video Games & music because nobody wants to take responsibility for anything. it's apparently everyone elses fault for the bad things that happen in life. if that's the case, i'm going to start suing everyone that's ever hurt me in my real life. i should contemplate suing ex-bosses for not giving me promotions that i wanted or pay raises that i felt i deserved. i should sue ex-teachers for not giving me A-pluses, at school. i should sue ex-bullies for tormenting me in school. after all, nobody is responsible for things, right? maybe we need to go back to the "Survival of the Fittest" mentality. only the biggest, fastest, strongest and/or smartest survive. only those with any real skill or ability will live long enough to pass on that knowledge to other generations. maybe those that are truly deserving will breed with others. |
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Post by Hollywood on Apr 19, 2009 0:05:44 GMT -6
Does this mean that the founding fathers(and mother) of SNW get to sue He Who Shall Not Be Named for running us off from his Fed That Shall Not Be Named, and inadvertently helping to launch this fed? ;D  |
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Post by Reaper on Apr 19, 2009 0:11:19 GMT -6
..... who or whatever could you be talking about....
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Post by Bubba JD on Apr 19, 2009 20:40:14 GMT -6
would this person be an Ass? if yes, he'd probably make the argument that he should sue you for "disrespecting his authoritah!" |
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Post by Reaper on Apr 20, 2009 7:23:07 GMT -6
I remember disrespecting him... I believe I won that arrangement too.
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Post by Bubba JD on Apr 20, 2009 21:00:13 GMT -6
that's a matter of perspective. guess i don't care enough on my end of it. simply nothing to gain by caring.
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Post by sh17 on May 13, 2009 21:09:18 GMT -6
Just to offer an update on one of the actions resulting from this story
Credit:prowrestling.com
The new "Don't Try This at Home" commercials that WWE has been airing are being done in response to the media article in New York about the nine-year old who jumped off the roof of his apartment building, allegedly imitating Jeff Hardy.
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Post by Bubba JD on May 14, 2009 20:53:27 GMT -6
WWE has a new "Don't Try This At Home" Video?
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Post by sh17 on May 14, 2009 21:04:02 GMT -6
Yes, it has ran for a couple weeks, was on this weeks Raw
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Post by emokid on May 16, 2009 13:47:59 GMT -6
I saw those commercials. This is why people like Glenn Beck should be stopped from speaking. I used to have respect for Glenn Beck, being a fellow Libertarian. Then the Chris Benoit thing happened, and he copletely bad-mouthed the sport of professional wrestling. Whenever something like this happens, professional wrestling is deemed evil. Why? I always quote George Carlin, and I will quote him again. It's ridiculous, and it goes to ridiculous lengths. Professional wrestling isn't to blame, bad parenting is. Blame the fucking parents. Oh, wait, "parents." There that's better.
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Post by Hollywood on May 16, 2009 13:53:58 GMT -6
Glenn Beck is a hack. He rails on the liberal media for being yellow journalists, yet he can't even get the name of a WWE PPV right. Yeah, great journalism, there, dumbass!
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