Hated Wrestler Talk

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Reaper inspired me in another thread with his criticisms against John Cena and The Rock. So, not wanting to hijack the thread, I figured it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a whole thread for people to discuss and debate. You could provide a list, or comment on other people's picks.

Mine are as follows:

Big Show- Definitely a unique talent, being so large. However, like many overly big men in the wrestling business, he is very hard to vary his workload. All his matches look the same, because his limited range of motion and limited versatility in his moves. Also, he is somewhat a victim of circumstance lately, having to participate in programs with John Cena and Vickie Guerrero. Speaking of which...

Vickie Guerrero- While I realize her job is to be a heel, and by the crowd reaction she handles that well. At the same time, I don't think she's a heel getting booed so much as a crappy character getting booed. She has the voice of a power drill, and has really no discernible purpose being the General Manager of any show. Also, it seems like WWE is milking Eddie even after he died, which I really think is somewhat cheap.

Vladimir Kozlov- I really could just state his name and move on, but for those who have not seen him(consider yourself lucky) I'll explain myself. Some people hate the fact that people are all mic, no fight. This is the exact opposite, as he has considerable wrestling prowess but about as much personality as a used band-aid.

Santino/Santina Marella-Oh God, where do I start? Santino started out as a good character, but he quickly de-valued into a hack. Especially with this whole cross-dressing bit(which doesn't seem PG to me but I guess it is to trans-gender children should they exist), I feel as if those minutes he is on the screen that a superstar who actually has a good character and deserves the time could be getting and putting to good use.

The Undertaker- This might be my most against the grain pick, but hear me out. I liked the Undertaker when he was "The American Bad-Ass" and rode a motorcycle. I realize that his "Deadman" bit was big when he first debuted, and that's OK it fit that time period. However, here in the 21st century, his character seems to be overly fantastical and a bit dusty. It also lacks variety;how many different bits can you do with it in all reality? Plus, and this is a complaint I have with TNA's Main Event Mafia lately as well, the man is getting near 50 years old. Are we giving an advantage to veteran talent who may or may not be past their prime while forsaking younger talent(John Morrison, CM Punk, Jeff Hardy) that could use more air time due to their connection with the crowd? Just saying is all.

Entire Main Event Mafia outside of Kurt Angle- Sting, Booker T, Scott Steiner, and Kevin Nash need to get on that white horse and ride off into the sunset. Instead, they are headlining TNA shows that have a roster jampacked with young, hungry talent. I realize Vince Russo is a big creative person with TNA, maybe thats why I feel so drawn to the old NWO angles back in WCW when Hogan, Luger, and alike were running the show in the main events when guys like 3 Count, Chris Jericho(who got out at the right time) and all the talented cruiser weights they had at the time were getting 5-10 minutes. Plus, Nash is somewhere in the 20s on surgeries he's had, Booker T claimed he didnt want to wrestle past 40 yet he's almost 43 and still working. Scott Steiner and Sting, the steroids could get those guys. I realize Steiner has maintained his innocence and has never failed a test, but man I'm just really doubtful because you don't get a natural body to look like that. Sting, I have somewhat third hand knowledge that back in the late 70s early 80s he was going full bore into steroids. However, both are getting up there with the rest of the group.

Whose next?

[Reaper]

The Rock/John Cena- I put them together because the criticism is the same. They are basically the same thing being repackaged in a new "era." While you can't deny the fact that they have a large fan base (despite Cena being booed in some arenas) and they are really good and talking to the people, the wrestling part of the thing is where I have my problem. If you watch any of their big time matches they are boring as all hell because they have a 3 to 5 move set in between rest holds and general body slams or arm drags. They both even added a submission move to their arsenals to break it up, but very sub par on both exectutions. The Rock's sharpshooter is just horrible, I know its all fake, but it never looked like he was putting any pressure on anything. Cenas STF looks just god awful, and on most occasions just looks like he has locked his hands around the persons throat to make it a choke, which would be "illegal" right? Either way, they were were unpredictable on the mic and very predictable in the ring. Not my cup of tea I guess.

Goldberg- My god words can't describe my seething hatred for this guy. And to anybody who hates him, I promise you that if you take all of your rage against the man and multiply it by 5, MAYBE you'd reach my level. The guy was garbage from day one, he was given EVERYTHING, and yet never gave anything back. He rolled through people in WCW that deserved the pushes and made them all look like crap in the process. There was a reason the guy never said more than 10 words and when he got into the ring he nearly killed people... as well as being even more limited than Cena and Rock. The way he spears people should be done to him by a speeding big rig.

Kozlov- And not because he's a boring piece of garbage, its because well if he has all of this goddamn training in stuff, I have yet to see anything that resembles it. A headbutt, a reverse DDT and a few suplexes. Theres no real technique to it, just sorta a bigger guy throwing around other people. Impress me...

Sabu/Sandman- These guys, even in the good ole ECW days were never safe. I'm surprised that either of these two have never killed somebody or themselves... or ended somebody's career in a very violent fashion.

Nash/Booker T/Steiner- I generally wouldn't put Booker in with these two, but its his attitude. These guys act as if they are still the stars they used to be. The fact is, Nash and Steiner can't move like they used to. Steiner especially used to be very impressive because he was a powerhouse that was very agile. But now, well he can't move and he can hardly speak without it sounding like he's got shit in his mouth. Nash...well he's still big, and he's still strong, but he can't move without looking like he's gonna tear a muscle or have a knee go out. That and he's still got that chip on his shoulder like he's still running the show.

[Bubba JD]

oh, how i could have fun with this. i'll start with a few obvious choices.


Triple H: i have about as much love for this piece of sHHHit as Reaper has for Goldberg. honestly, nobody stays on top of a roster as long as he has, without being the main booker, the promoter, a relative of the main booker/promoter, or somehow being related (either directly or through marriage). Erik Watts got pushed heavily in WCW because his daddy, "Cowboy" Bill Watts, ran WCW. Flair & Dusty Rhodes each controlled the booking for the NWA & WCW, at one point or another. that allowed them to push themselves heavily, because of that. Triple H has been pushed heavily for years, as well, because of his relationship to Stephanie McMahon (and the rest of her family, to a lesser extent).

how many more times must this man be allowed to go over the rest of the talent, just to give him another title reign? is it really necessary for him to get more title reigns then Ric Flair? does he have to be the focus of the WWE "Universe"?

there was a time when his promos became redundant. his promos, even now, have a lot of faked emotions. he can't even bother making them look convincing. i think most of us here could do a more convincing job.

his matches seem to follow too much of a formula. you can pretty well predict what he's going to do & when he's going to do it.

assHHHole is probably the biggest egomaniac in WWE, outside of Vince himself. he seems to need the spotlight so much, it's as though he'd die if he couldn't be the center of attention.

HHH is one of those guys that if you dropped a nuke on him, he'd no sell it. if the Earth exploded with him on it, he'd no sell that too.

i used to hear a nickname, back in the day, that i think is fitting of HHH. HHH is the modern-day Poochy! that's a name that once belonged to Kevin Nash, during his WCW days.

for those who don't know (or remember) Poochy, don't be afraid to ask around. it's actually a highly accurate nickname for The Lame!

Undertaker-i'll give the man his due. there was a time when he was one of my favorite wrestlers. that was, until he became the American Deadass. yeah, like i was supposed to buy into that whole load of crap. he had been out, due to an injury. his return was hyped heavily. then, when he came back, he was no longer an UnDead Zombie. he somehow transformed into a bike riding, hellraising, undead zombie that wanted respect, wanted the kids to keep off his grass or he'd show everyone his yard.

then, we got some crap about him being a Bastion Booger Red or whatever. what the hell is a booger red, anyway?

now, we've got him as a MMA-fighting undead zombie who takes more time getting to the ring then actually wrestling. added with his age & injuries, am i supposed to believe that he "can still go"? why am i supposed to believe that he's still better then half the roster?


HBK-born againt Christian my ass. he's nothing more then a crippled up, smile losing, gay dancing fuckhead who would just as readily sell everyone up shit creek, as opposed to being a company man. he's got a few basic moves left, because of all his past injuries. if he's really doing good, he can do the same lame blade job that he's been doing for over 10 years.


Kurt Angle-since leaving WWE, Angle has done a lot of interviews. many of these interviews, Kurt has come across as a ranting, raving, dilluted lunatic. dude, leave the business before you end up putting yourself into a wheelchair. you're 1 serious injury away from getting yourself killed. don't be a retard & get yourself killed in the ring.


Kevin "AH, i tore my fucking quad" Nash-he can't even walk across a ring anymore, without risking a serious quad injury. anytime he has to do a major job, we suddenly hear about "heart problems", "illness" & other such problems. if you're that afraid of jobbing, then it's time to leave.

Vickie Guerrero-charity case, pure & simple. only reason this no-talent bimbo is in WWE is because of Eddie's untimely death. if it wasn't for that, there'd be no way she would've had a job.

John Cena-similar complaints to Triple H. limited to a few basic moves. his mic skills are a bit limited. we get to hear "the champ is hear", "some people love me & some people hate me, but that's cool", some poop and/or gay jokes.....lots of generic interview crap, involving how he's going to hurt someone.

sad thing is, he used to be fun to watch, just before he was pushed to the moon. at least then, he worked just hard enough to put on a good match. now, he's a cookie-cutter main eventer.