Post by sh17 on Jul 7, 2009 1:26:53 GMT -6
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530284,00.html?test=latestnews
OK, before I tear off this rant, let me say that I do not agree with abortion in any case except in the rape of a woman who becomes pregnant due to that. I just want to make that clear, so there's no ambiguity on any side who may try to snipe me. Also, if you're going to post in this thread, please keep your posts about the actual issue not trying to dig each other about our abortion beliefs. Thanks ahead of time.
Now, onto this story, this is so much a crock of hot horse shit I don't even know where to start. I think the school was in the right here, because quite frankly if I'm a school administrator at the public school level, I don't want a kid walking around with that shirt or a Pro Choice shirt on because it's not going to end well. The mother can screech and squall about how her child's First Amendment rights were taken away, and she was being denied the right to wear this shirt. Bullshit, this child was not being infringed at the least. I like to think I'm somewhat more intelligent than the people at my age(senior in high school for a reference point), and dating back to seventh grade I didn't know the definition of abortion, nor did I know the hellfire and brimstone you could raise by taking a side in it. If I had to bet a hundred American dollars right now, I'd tell you that this mother is not pissed because her precious daughter's right to say whatever she wants was infringed because it wasn't. This mother is complaining because a school made the right decision not to allow a controversial issue to cause a problem in their public classroom and she is unhappy because she is not able to use her child as a pawn to further her own agenda.
Now, another thing in this story that did not really please me was the wording of the lawsuit. The use of such harsh language(the lawsuit was quoted a couple times in the story) is obviously used as a sympathy tactic. I doubt that how the lawsuit presents this case as far as how the events happened is accurate. If they were, then the school should be ashamed. My main problem here is this though. First of all, who the fuck has heard of National Pro Life T-Shirt Day? That just sounds made up, but I don't doubt it exists so I won't go after that. This mother, who is clamoring for her daughter's First Amendment rights to "be restored", would be raising Hell if it was National Pro Choice T-Shirt Day and a child wore a shirt advocating it. I doubt she'd even be considering that child's rights of free speech, since it didn't agree with her views and beliefs.
I could go on forever about this, I really could, but I won't. I'll end on a high(?) by saying that the school was in the right here. Public school is no place for pro life vs. pro choice t-shirts to be flaunted, quite frankly there really isn't a time for that ever. Your beliefs are your beliefs, and putting them so out in the open like that could be construed as trying to force them on someone. If you want to be for or against abortion, that's cool we live in a country where you are free to choose a side on it. But, when a school does the right thing, don't bitch and litigate when you perceive you're getting the shit end of the stick. You're just making yourself look like an asshole, and just furthering the negative views that your side of the issue already has.
OK, before I tear off this rant, let me say that I do not agree with abortion in any case except in the rape of a woman who becomes pregnant due to that. I just want to make that clear, so there's no ambiguity on any side who may try to snipe me. Also, if you're going to post in this thread, please keep your posts about the actual issue not trying to dig each other about our abortion beliefs. Thanks ahead of time.
Now, onto this story, this is so much a crock of hot horse shit I don't even know where to start. I think the school was in the right here, because quite frankly if I'm a school administrator at the public school level, I don't want a kid walking around with that shirt or a Pro Choice shirt on because it's not going to end well. The mother can screech and squall about how her child's First Amendment rights were taken away, and she was being denied the right to wear this shirt. Bullshit, this child was not being infringed at the least. I like to think I'm somewhat more intelligent than the people at my age(senior in high school for a reference point), and dating back to seventh grade I didn't know the definition of abortion, nor did I know the hellfire and brimstone you could raise by taking a side in it. If I had to bet a hundred American dollars right now, I'd tell you that this mother is not pissed because her precious daughter's right to say whatever she wants was infringed because it wasn't. This mother is complaining because a school made the right decision not to allow a controversial issue to cause a problem in their public classroom and she is unhappy because she is not able to use her child as a pawn to further her own agenda.
Now, another thing in this story that did not really please me was the wording of the lawsuit. The use of such harsh language(the lawsuit was quoted a couple times in the story) is obviously used as a sympathy tactic. I doubt that how the lawsuit presents this case as far as how the events happened is accurate. If they were, then the school should be ashamed. My main problem here is this though. First of all, who the fuck has heard of National Pro Life T-Shirt Day? That just sounds made up, but I don't doubt it exists so I won't go after that. This mother, who is clamoring for her daughter's First Amendment rights to "be restored", would be raising Hell if it was National Pro Choice T-Shirt Day and a child wore a shirt advocating it. I doubt she'd even be considering that child's rights of free speech, since it didn't agree with her views and beliefs.
I could go on forever about this, I really could, but I won't. I'll end on a high(?) by saying that the school was in the right here. Public school is no place for pro life vs. pro choice t-shirts to be flaunted, quite frankly there really isn't a time for that ever. Your beliefs are your beliefs, and putting them so out in the open like that could be construed as trying to force them on someone. If you want to be for or against abortion, that's cool we live in a country where you are free to choose a side on it. But, when a school does the right thing, don't bitch and litigate when you perceive you're getting the shit end of the stick. You're just making yourself look like an asshole, and just furthering the negative views that your side of the issue already has.
